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		<title>Comment on Fear itself &#8230; by Eli Penelin</title>
		<link>http://www.thewantedplanet.net/?p=94&#038;cpage=1#comment-84498</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli Penelin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 01:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,

Amen.

Kat</description>
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<p>Amen.</p>
<p>Kat</p>
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		<title>Comment on Keep the hell out of my body bag! by Mr. Majestic</title>
		<link>http://www.thewantedplanet.net/?p=78&#038;cpage=1#comment-47081</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Majestic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More fuel for the fire!  (pun intended)

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.SenateReport</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More fuel for the fire!  (pun intended)</p>
<p><a href="http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.SenateReport" rel="nofollow">http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.SenateReport</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Life as a pigeon &#8230; by Eli Penelin</title>
		<link>http://www.thewantedplanet.net/?p=90&#038;cpage=1#comment-46134</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli Penelin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fear . . . fear of the unknown.  That&#039;s what&#039;s behind labeling. If you define it (him, her . . .) then you get the idea that you now know what to expect, how to react, whether it (he, she) is a threat, a friend, a foe . . . Now you know whether to be afraid or if it&#039;s safe to let your guard down.

It&#039;s also a form of time-management -- akin to sorting through the mail.  That&#039;s junk. This is important. That&#039;s valuable but I can deal with it later.

Over all, I agree with you.  But I also understand why people like labels (I don&#039;t). They do simplify life, allow you to feel &quot;safe&quot; and allow you to avoid introspection (which really does require time and takes a lot of effort). 

The reason we get along, you and I, is because we enjoy the challenge of actually facing life, and because we accept that not all of it will be easy or even enjoyable.  My two favorite quotes from M. Scott Peck are:

&quot;Life is hard. Once you accept that, it gets easier.&quot;  
&quot;Everything that happens in life is there to aid our spiritual growth.&quot;

The other reason we get along is that we are both enigmas.  People may label us, but somewhere in the back of their minds they are pretty sure they  don&#039;t have us all the way in the box and it bothers them.  I believe enigma-people challenge those who are lazy about life and it&#039;s lessons.  So I&#039;m not bothered by the occasional hostility that comes from people who want me to get in the freaking box and stay there, so they can sleep in peace.  You&#039;re the same way.  It&#039;s not that either of us want to upset people, but it is good to challenge once in a while.

I liked the &quot;God in a Box&quot; site.  I intend to forward the link to several friends.  Some will think they get it and I accept that they will miss the point -- at least at this point in their lives.  But several of them really will get it and those connections are wonderful.

Thanks for this -- I learned a lot today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fear . . . fear of the unknown.  That&#8217;s what&#8217;s behind labeling. If you define it (him, her . . .) then you get the idea that you now know what to expect, how to react, whether it (he, she) is a threat, a friend, a foe . . . Now you know whether to be afraid or if it&#8217;s safe to let your guard down.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also a form of time-management &#8212; akin to sorting through the mail.  That&#8217;s junk. This is important. That&#8217;s valuable but I can deal with it later.</p>
<p>Over all, I agree with you.  But I also understand why people like labels (I don&#8217;t). They do simplify life, allow you to feel &#8220;safe&#8221; and allow you to avoid introspection (which really does require time and takes a lot of effort). </p>
<p>The reason we get along, you and I, is because we enjoy the challenge of actually facing life, and because we accept that not all of it will be easy or even enjoyable.  My two favorite quotes from M. Scott Peck are:</p>
<p>&#8220;Life is hard. Once you accept that, it gets easier.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Everything that happens in life is there to aid our spiritual growth.&#8221;</p>
<p>The other reason we get along is that we are both enigmas.  People may label us, but somewhere in the back of their minds they are pretty sure they  don&#8217;t have us all the way in the box and it bothers them.  I believe enigma-people challenge those who are lazy about life and it&#8217;s lessons.  So I&#8217;m not bothered by the occasional hostility that comes from people who want me to get in the freaking box and stay there, so they can sleep in peace.  You&#8217;re the same way.  It&#8217;s not that either of us want to upset people, but it is good to challenge once in a while.</p>
<p>I liked the &#8220;God in a Box&#8221; site.  I intend to forward the link to several friends.  Some will think they get it and I accept that they will miss the point &#8212; at least at this point in their lives.  But several of them really will get it and those connections are wonderful.</p>
<p>Thanks for this &#8212; I learned a lot today.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pushing the sky &#8230; by Eli Penelin</title>
		<link>http://www.thewantedplanet.net/?p=88&#038;cpage=1#comment-46128</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli Penelin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My single regret in life has always been that I was born too late to ever hope to at least orbit the earth. Ok, my other regret is that I was born too EARLY for it to have been possible for me, a woman, to have pursued a career as an astronaut. So your link to Virgin Atlantic&#039;s endeavor was at once exciting and depressing! OMG, it IS possible! I could go!!!!  Ummmm  . . . if we win the lottery. LOL  Ahhh well, hopefully I&#039;ll live long enough for the prices to come down. I&#039;m ready to sell a kidney or something. I tried selling my right arm and my I-teeth but no one actually buys those it seems.  ;-P  Joking of course.  Besides, none of those items fetch enough.  LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My single regret in life has always been that I was born too late to ever hope to at least orbit the earth. Ok, my other regret is that I was born too EARLY for it to have been possible for me, a woman, to have pursued a career as an astronaut. So your link to Virgin Atlantic&#8217;s endeavor was at once exciting and depressing! OMG, it IS possible! I could go!!!!  Ummmm  . . . if we win the lottery. LOL  Ahhh well, hopefully I&#8217;ll live long enough for the prices to come down. I&#8217;m ready to sell a kidney or something. I tried selling my right arm and my I-teeth but no one actually buys those it seems.  ;-P  Joking of course.  Besides, none of those items fetch enough.  LOL!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Water, water, everywhere &#8230; and then nowhere by elipenelin</title>
		<link>http://www.thewantedplanet.net/?p=86&#038;cpage=1#comment-28740</link>
		<dc:creator>elipenelin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 16:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad you got the problem solved, at last.  I was going to suggest that you go down to the contractor&#039;s office every day that you couldn&#039;t shower, and tell them that you were going to work from that location, becoming more and more aromatic, until they fixed the leak.  LOL  But your problem was solved before I got the chance to suggest that.  

But you know, I&#039;m kinda thinking that your timing was off a little on this incident.  Those holes in the yard might have been sort of handy right now. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you got the problem solved, at last.  I was going to suggest that you go down to the contractor&#8217;s office every day that you couldn&#8217;t shower, and tell them that you were going to work from that location, becoming more and more aromatic, until they fixed the leak.  LOL  But your problem was solved before I got the chance to suggest that.  </p>
<p>But you know, I&#8217;m kinda thinking that your timing was off a little on this incident.  Those holes in the yard might have been sort of handy right now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on More crap &#8230; by EliPenelin</title>
		<link>http://www.thewantedplanet.net/?p=81&#038;cpage=1#comment-18567</link>
		<dc:creator>EliPenelin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 15:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I don’t ever remember you defining yourself as a writer.

I’ve heard you describe yourself as a husband; a father; a film maker; a man with aspirations, hopes and dreams; as someone who values introspection and critical thinking  ... I think that last bit is the reason you occasionally blog, and why conversations with you are so interesting.

Anyway, your &quot;random aperiodic dumps&quot; are fun because you cram so much information into them.  It often takes me days to fully digest the offering. Blogging is a good way to explore those profound topics we’d like to discuss, but which usually don’t find their way into the typical dinner conversation. And the nicest thing about posting thoughts in a blog is that they are waiting there for your extended network – for whenever each of us finds the time to read and ponder and maybe eventually comment.

But it’s not an assignment, it’s a venue. And there are no deadlines.  And, yes, email and phone and other types of conversations do count.

I should have talked to you about this IPTV thing before our French student arrived.  Blockbuster really loves me right now.  I’ve rented so many movies, in an attempt to keep him entertained when we’re not on some excursion, that I actually considered having Time Warner turn on the mega-big-expensive-all-inclusive-package for a month.  It was more expensive to be sure, but then I wouldn’t have had to get in my car and drive down to Blockbuster. And I wouldn’t have had to program those little “return the movie” reminders on my phone. (Yes, I am technologically challenged, but necessity is the mother of invention.) Who knew I could plug him in to a computer and let him watch TV for free?!?!  You’ll have to educate me about this venue.  Maybe I DO like watching TV if it’s free (or at least cheap) and on demand.

I loved Charlie Stross’ essay.  Lots of good stuff there ... I book-marked a bunch of links ... which is the real beauty of blogging (especially the way you and a lot of your blogging network do).  I keep accumulating interesting reading material for “some day when I have time to read this.”  The book-marked material is accumulating faster than I have time to explore, but I figure this is a hedge against boredom when I’m too old to hike, bike, and travel.

But back to the idea of colonizing other planets:  the Ender series leaps to mind. (I’m not the only one who thinks hive species are especially good candidates for interstellar travel. And by the way, Orson Scott Card also provides endless fodder for philosophical and religious debates – in case someone just doesn’t blog for lack of ideas, which would be my excuse.)

Although I really want Gene Roddenberry’s ideal to become a reality, one does have to consider the likelihood that Card has it right regarding the future characteristics of humans who did actually colonize other planets: the hierarchy of alienness - Utlannings, Framlings, Ramen, Varelse - does that suggest that Roddenberry’s bipedal aliens are likely?  Obviously not, because over time each unique planetary environment would morph the characteristics of its colonists.  But it’s a nice little explanation that I keep in my back pocket for use against those who pick on my Trekkie side.  LOL!  If one wants to tease, one should also be willing to debate.  ;-)

I, too, am accursed.  We all are.  And the concept explored in “Made to Stick” would seem to explain not only email, but all forms of interpersonal communication.  I am ever amazed at what people “get” from what I write or say.  Someone once explained to me that no one ever actually responds to what you say.  They respond to your words, but they bring to that some event that happened to them when they were 8 years old, and what sort of relationship they had with their moms, and whether or not they became socially adept, and what sort of drive-to-work they had this morning, and the tone their spouse took when discussing the toothpaste in the sink yesterday ... that idea keeps me from taking a vow of silence.  Instead, when I get weird reactions to my communications, I just shrug and figure there is always next time ... except that I am aware that THIS time just factored into next time.  It joined all those other events that colored the listener’s perception of what I actually said.

Well, I’m off to share “last.fm” with at least three people.  Thanks for that.  I hesitate to share it with my husband, lest I spend the next several weeks looking at the back of his head while he looks at the computer screen.  LOL!  But I know he will sincerely enjoy that site.  He got his Zen player at Christmas, and he is just now able to talk to me without thinking “Wait, did I up-load the White Album yet or not?”.    ;-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I don’t ever remember you defining yourself as a writer.</p>
<p>I’ve heard you describe yourself as a husband; a father; a film maker; a man with aspirations, hopes and dreams; as someone who values introspection and critical thinking  &#8230; I think that last bit is the reason you occasionally blog, and why conversations with you are so interesting.</p>
<p>Anyway, your &#8220;random aperiodic dumps&#8221; are fun because you cram so much information into them.  It often takes me days to fully digest the offering. Blogging is a good way to explore those profound topics we’d like to discuss, but which usually don’t find their way into the typical dinner conversation. And the nicest thing about posting thoughts in a blog is that they are waiting there for your extended network – for whenever each of us finds the time to read and ponder and maybe eventually comment.</p>
<p>But it’s not an assignment, it’s a venue. And there are no deadlines.  And, yes, email and phone and other types of conversations do count.</p>
<p>I should have talked to you about this IPTV thing before our French student arrived.  Blockbuster really loves me right now.  I’ve rented so many movies, in an attempt to keep him entertained when we’re not on some excursion, that I actually considered having Time Warner turn on the mega-big-expensive-all-inclusive-package for a month.  It was more expensive to be sure, but then I wouldn’t have had to get in my car and drive down to Blockbuster. And I wouldn’t have had to program those little “return the movie” reminders on my phone. (Yes, I am technologically challenged, but necessity is the mother of invention.) Who knew I could plug him in to a computer and let him watch TV for free?!?!  You’ll have to educate me about this venue.  Maybe I DO like watching TV if it’s free (or at least cheap) and on demand.</p>
<p>I loved Charlie Stross’ essay.  Lots of good stuff there &#8230; I book-marked a bunch of links &#8230; which is the real beauty of blogging (especially the way you and a lot of your blogging network do).  I keep accumulating interesting reading material for “some day when I have time to read this.”  The book-marked material is accumulating faster than I have time to explore, but I figure this is a hedge against boredom when I’m too old to hike, bike, and travel.</p>
<p>But back to the idea of colonizing other planets:  the Ender series leaps to mind. (I’m not the only one who thinks hive species are especially good candidates for interstellar travel. And by the way, Orson Scott Card also provides endless fodder for philosophical and religious debates – in case someone just doesn’t blog for lack of ideas, which would be my excuse.)</p>
<p>Although I really want Gene Roddenberry’s ideal to become a reality, one does have to consider the likelihood that Card has it right regarding the future characteristics of humans who did actually colonize other planets: the hierarchy of alienness &#8211; Utlannings, Framlings, Ramen, Varelse &#8211; does that suggest that Roddenberry’s bipedal aliens are likely?  Obviously not, because over time each unique planetary environment would morph the characteristics of its colonists.  But it’s a nice little explanation that I keep in my back pocket for use against those who pick on my Trekkie side.  LOL!  If one wants to tease, one should also be willing to debate.  <img src='http://www.thewantedplanet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I, too, am accursed.  We all are.  And the concept explored in “Made to Stick” would seem to explain not only email, but all forms of interpersonal communication.  I am ever amazed at what people “get” from what I write or say.  Someone once explained to me that no one ever actually responds to what you say.  They respond to your words, but they bring to that some event that happened to them when they were 8 years old, and what sort of relationship they had with their moms, and whether or not they became socially adept, and what sort of drive-to-work they had this morning, and the tone their spouse took when discussing the toothpaste in the sink yesterday &#8230; that idea keeps me from taking a vow of silence.  Instead, when I get weird reactions to my communications, I just shrug and figure there is always next time &#8230; except that I am aware that THIS time just factored into next time.  It joined all those other events that colored the listener’s perception of what I actually said.</p>
<p>Well, I’m off to share “last.fm” with at least three people.  Thanks for that.  I hesitate to share it with my husband, lest I spend the next several weeks looking at the back of his head while he looks at the computer screen.  LOL!  But I know he will sincerely enjoy that site.  He got his Zen player at Christmas, and he is just now able to talk to me without thinking “Wait, did I up-load the White Album yet or not?”.    ;-P</p>
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		<title>Comment on We&#8217;re gonna have a wing-ding! by EliPenelin</title>
		<link>http://www.thewantedplanet.net/?p=75&#038;cpage=1#comment-10587</link>
		<dc:creator>EliPenelin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check this out! Maybe faster than light travel really is possible.
http://space.newscientist.com/article/mg18925331.200-take-a-leap-into-hyperspace.html

Isn&#039;t it funny, the way things arrive . . . This from reading Scott Adams&#039; blog . . . Hmmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check this out! Maybe faster than light travel really is possible.<br />
<a href="http://space.newscientist.com/article/mg18925331.200-take-a-leap-into-hyperspace.html" rel="nofollow">http://space.newscientist.com/article/mg18925331.200-take-a-leap-into-hyperspace.html</a></p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it funny, the way things arrive . . . This from reading Scott Adams&#8217; blog . . . Hmmmm.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s no &#8216;Yoda&#8217;, but still &#8230; by EliPenelin</title>
		<link>http://www.thewantedplanet.net/?p=77&#038;cpage=1#comment-8358</link>
		<dc:creator>EliPenelin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 23:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok before I address Alanis Morissette or Black-Eyed Peas, I have to ask: was Jason Alexander EVER that desperate or possibly POOR?  Really . . . McDLT ads?  LOL!  The sandwich may be delicious but Jason, Jason, Jason! There has to be more dignity in you than that.

On to Alanis.  Rumor has it this was an April Fools joke.  Certainly looks like a joke of some sort.  At least the Black-Eyed Peas version was a good work-out song.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok before I address Alanis Morissette or Black-Eyed Peas, I have to ask: was Jason Alexander EVER that desperate or possibly POOR?  Really . . . McDLT ads?  LOL!  The sandwich may be delicious but Jason, Jason, Jason! There has to be more dignity in you than that.</p>
<p>On to Alanis.  Rumor has it this was an April Fools joke.  Certainly looks like a joke of some sort.  At least the Black-Eyed Peas version was a good work-out song.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Oh, I wish I were &#8230; by EliPenelin</title>
		<link>http://www.thewantedplanet.net/?p=76&#038;cpage=1#comment-7296</link>
		<dc:creator>EliPenelin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 20:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No wonder you refuse to discuss Dali.  Ha!  Also, I really do think I should be able to claim (at the very least) continuing education credits of some sort after reading one of your entries. Ouch . . . my brain hurts.

Have you ever looked at your entries? They kinda look like a page out of the O.T. sometimes.  All that red ink . . .

Don&#039;t pout.  Someone has to tease you and it is my calling.

Ok let me get serious now.  Utopia eh?  I don&#039;t think that&#039;s all that difficult to define.  In a Utopian society, art would be labeled as such so there would be no guessing.  And also alarm clocks would be outlawed.  Instead there would be coffee-bots.  They would bring your coffee to your bedside in the morning and softly talk to you, maybe pat you on the back, until you were able to sit up to ingest it.  ;-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No wonder you refuse to discuss Dali.  Ha!  Also, I really do think I should be able to claim (at the very least) continuing education credits of some sort after reading one of your entries. Ouch . . . my brain hurts.</p>
<p>Have you ever looked at your entries? They kinda look like a page out of the O.T. sometimes.  All that red ink . . .</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t pout.  Someone has to tease you and it is my calling.</p>
<p>Ok let me get serious now.  Utopia eh?  I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s all that difficult to define.  In a Utopian society, art would be labeled as such so there would be no guessing.  And also alarm clocks would be outlawed.  Instead there would be coffee-bots.  They would bring your coffee to your bedside in the morning and softly talk to you, maybe pat you on the back, until you were able to sit up to ingest it.  ;-P</p>
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		<title>Comment on Left by the left &#8230; by EliPenelin</title>
		<link>http://www.thewantedplanet.net/?p=42&#038;cpage=1#comment-5520</link>
		<dc:creator>EliPenelin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way I see it, the problem is that a large percentage of voters rely on name recognition rather than researching the issues.  People are essentially lazy when it comes to formulating a personal political viewpoint.  They approach ballots the way people approach menus.  “I had this before and it wasn’t too bad.  I’ll have that again.”  Much easier than discerning all ingredients of each candidate, and selecting something new and different.  This explains why completely incompetent incumbents are generally reelected to local, county, and even state positions, unless they become involved in a scandal, at which point their names are besmirched.  Just my opinion, but you know what they say about opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I see it, the problem is that a large percentage of voters rely on name recognition rather than researching the issues.  People are essentially lazy when it comes to formulating a personal political viewpoint.  They approach ballots the way people approach menus.  “I had this before and it wasn’t too bad.  I’ll have that again.”  Much easier than discerning all ingredients of each candidate, and selecting something new and different.  This explains why completely incompetent incumbents are generally reelected to local, county, and even state positions, unless they become involved in a scandal, at which point their names are besmirched.  Just my opinion, but you know what they say about opinions.</p>
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